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An Open Letter to David DavisMP

Established 1981London School of Islamics     An Educational Trust63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD  Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.ukwww.londonschoolofislamics.org.ukTel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667An Open Letter to David Davis MPDavid Davis MP said that Britain’s traditional policy of multiculturalism is now “outdated”. Gerald Howarth MP is of the opinion that Muslim should leave this country. The owner of local radio station, broadcasting in Copenhagen suggests killing Muslims in order to combat terrorism. He holds all Muslims responsible for the London blast. A damning new report by Professor Carl Parsons of Canterbury Christ Church University College has found that institutional racism exists within British schools. Britain’s ethnic minorities will always be perceived as outsiders.Multiculturalism has always been defined and implemented wrongly by the British establishment. Multiculturalism involves a level of complexity which cannot be understood from the prospective of any single discipline. Instead, historical, cultural, linguistic, political, economic, educational, sociological and psychological factors and processes all play a critical role. Multiculturalism is not about integration but about cultural plurality. It is not about separation but about respect and the deepening awareness of Unity in Diversity. Each culture will maintain its own intrinsic value and at the same time would be expected to contribute to the benefit of the whole society. Multiculturalism can accommodate diversity of all kinds – cultural, philosophical and religious, so that we can create a world without conflict and strife. Britain can assume the role of accommodation and concern for all peoples, for our planet and indeed for our survival. We live in a rapidly changing world. British Muslims are ordinary people with the same sorts of ambitions, frustrations, failures and successes as anybody else. We are just like you, go to work, pay taxes, obey the law and just want to get on with our everyday life. We are hated simply for following Islam. According to labour’s Karen Buck, Muslims in Britain are now at the sharper end of race hatred and xenophobia. West has many stereotypes, misconceptions about Islam that are due to the media, prejudice and ignorance. Islam is often looked upon as an extremist, terrorist religion. To fight malaria, one does not shoot down mosquitoes, one drains the swamps.  Urgent government action is needed to tackle Islamophobia and “institutional disadvantages” suffered by British Muslim community. Now it has become widely accepted that, in Bernard Lewis’ words, “Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century”. The greater Islamist threat to the West is not violence-flattening buildings, bombing railroad stations and night clubs, seizing theaters and schools – but the peaceful, legal growth of power through education, the law, the media and the political system.  Iftikhar Ahmad

Iftikhar Ahmad ● 7282d32 Comments

Salaam IftikharThank you for contributing once more to the Wandsworth forum. I for one admire your sincerity and determination and, I must say, the lack of censorship on your own website in accepting pro-Islamic, anti-Islamic and downright racist postings from the public.One theme I have detected in your postings, however, is the belief that Muslims in the UK suffer "discrimination in all walks of life". I disagree with this view. Who is most likely to discriminate against a Muslim woman, for example? Is the fact that women in the UK of Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin remain at the bottom of the wage scale the fault of wider UK society or traditional male hegemony in the Pakistani/Bangladeshi cultures?Indeed, what do you mean by the "Muslim community"? Sunni or Shia? Philosophical Sufi or austere Salafi? How closely does the worldview of an Egyptian or Moroccan Muslim align with a Pakistani one, I wonder? You yourself Iftikhar have eloquently condemned 'Islamic' honour killings that are neither honourable nor Islamic. Such a practice is acceptable to some Muslims but not to most. There is no universality with regard to the veil either. The Muslim world is as much in disagreement and internal strife as the non-Muslim one. It would be disingenuous to deny as much.This I fear then is perhaps your greatest misconception – the monolithic caricaturing of British Muslims and non-Muslims. Most non-Muslims in Britain don't believe in "binge drinking, yobish [sic] culture and teenager pregnancy" either. There is no uniformity in any camp, religious or secular.Your characterisation of monolithic Muslim and non-Muslim communities therefore does both a disservice. So too your view that "British Muslims… are hated simply for following Islam". Would 1.6 million Muslims be here if such hatred really existed? What I think you have done then is confused objective criticism for racism or the dreaded 'Islamophobia'. Relative to most countries, Britain is extremely tolerant. We have had our share of religious sectarianism and Cromwellian religious theocracy, have campaigned for and won universal suffrage, female divorce and property rights, given back an empire and legalised homosexuality. Our relative modern liberalism has been shaped by our history.At one point in our history, criticising the king or the faith was a capital offence. Doing so now is seen as one of our virtues, testament to democratic maturity – a maturity still lacking in an Muslim world that murdered poets in the Prophet's time and still issues fatwa death sentences on authors and dissenters today.What angers many British non-Muslims then is the perceived ingratitude of the Muslims who, in settling here, refuse to integrate or adopt the language and demand change to conform to their way of thinking. This is not intolerance towards Islam but rather concern that some Muslims seem hell-bent on dragging Britain back into our undemocratic, misogynous, religiously intolerant past.It rankles even more when some call for a "Unity in Diversity" for Britain that is so conspicuously lacking in most (all?) of the Muslim world. A Qur'an is mistreated in Guantanamo and it's an attack on Islam. A Bible, Torah or Bhagavad-Gita is destroyed on entry to Mecca or the Maldives and it's Islamic righteousness. There's a double-standard here. Respect seems too one-sided, accommodation a sign of weakness. With many Muslims there is no middle ground, no chance of negotiation or rapprochement. It's either the 'Muslim' way or no way at all. Any non-Muslim in disagreement is Islamaphobic, a Muslim in disagreement even worse, an apostate (and what's the Islamic punishment for apostasy again?).Muslim toleration is often accommodating only if something conforms to the perceived Islamic viewpoint. If regarded un-Islamic, however, the much vaunted peaceful Muslim tolerance often seems to vanish. Muslim toleration then is not universal, not objective, but too often viewed solely through the lens of Islamic thinking. Please remember one thing Iftikhar - it is not racist, anti-Islamic or hateful for a non-Muslim majority to disagree with a Muslim minority or simply be unconcerned with Muslim issues. It's called 'freedom of conscience'. You seem to be relying on every ounce of western liberalism in order to one day replace it with a separatist Pakistani spin on Islam. Your aims may be noble (you seem sincere and caring to me) but the way you articulate them is symptomatic of the muddied depths to which much 'Islamic' thinking has fallen.There remains a residual 'us and them' attitude in much of the Muslim world. This is the result of centuries of Muslim insularity and the retreat into dogma. Rather than engage in open debate on the differing hues of Islam, a medieval legal system, the internal spats and downright schisms, it's easier to blame others. You don't get what you want? It must be because Britain hates Islam, we're racist. Is this an unfair view? I'll give you an example then. On the www.putneysw15.com website, 'Abou Kwemi' has posted the following comment:"why is there no mosque in putney? i feel this is probably racism attitude of putney peolpe. we must to have mosque in putney for muslim brothers and suisters to worship togethr. I call for strong support to have mosque in Putney for good relations." So, in Abou Kwemi's mind, the absence of something Islamic equates to evidence of racism in Putney. "Good relations" depend on "strong support" for a mosque. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems a wee bit threatening, if only in a moral sense. Must residents in Putney really give in to such regressive thinking in order to avoid claims of "racism" and keep "good relations"?With regard to state-funded Muslim schools then, has it ever occurred to you that they would most likely be funded by the very non-Muslim taxpayers you portray as racist, binge-drinking, yobbish Muslim-haters?This is why you may be receiving opposition to your aims. The way you state your case smacks of ingratitude and caprice, of people who want to retreat further into a system of separate development, that 'British or 'Western' ways aren't good enough for Muslims. Hence Gerald Howarth's view that, if such Muslims "…don't like our way of life, there is a simple remedy: go to another country, get out. There are plenty of other countries whose way of life would appear to be more conducive to what they aspire to. They would be happy and we would be happy". Such a sentiment could equally apply to non-Muslims too. If someone doesn't like the country, they're free to leave. British non-Muslims then are growing increasingly weary of sanctimonious accusations of racism and Islamophobia from people who, in their own prejudice, haven't given integration a chance. Many Muslims too are sick of such reasoning but dare not speak out against the bearded Torquemada mullahs for fear of retribution.Now, more than ever, non-Muslims and increasing numbers of young British Muslims need an enlightened Muslim identity that more reflects the modern experience. Your separatist yearnings may only compound the push-me, pull-you forces already bearing down on the children of Muslim immigrants to this country. Instead of perpetuating the discredited arguments, the careworn accusations against the country you choose to live in, why not be at the vanguard of a reformed and reinvigorated Muslim identity? Must a Muslim woman in Britain really look as though she's just stepped out of the scorching seventh century Arabian desert? Must there really be separate development of the sexes, male hegemony, constant attempts to emulate the mores of a different country, a different culture and a different era?If Islam really is open to all people of all eras, try adapting it to the country and time we live in. Don't live in separatist exclusion. If Pakistani children can't speak Urdu then this is the fault of the parents, not the state. Try teaching Arabic in the mosque – Christian schools don't receive money to teach the Bible in Greek, to learn the Aramaic utterances of Jesus or compel their young women to wear a Marian veil.Even more importantly, try giving credit and criticism where they're due. These anti-British, anti-Western diatribes are growing wearisome and weaken your case.

Fraser Pearce ● 7255d

Well well well, a response , however , not in answer to the various points raised. Iftikars view is to demand rather than participate .  A Trust , you say ? the paradox is that you dont write to inform non muslims of issues , you preach , a higher belief ? that to be a muslim is the ultimate of religious callings , you subvert by indoctrination that there is only one holy book. Freedom to think , to understand , to assimulate is subjugated through your attempt to give an Islamic identity, your reference to cultural  heritage is a matter for the home of such sub continent families . The British family , which your postings are aimed at , hence using a community web site, instead of a letter to the Home Office, do not need the brainwashing technique applied in all of your ramberling diatribes. If you are really concerned about the needs of your flock , be the good shepherd and use your own funds and skills . I also pay taxes and object to your need to find an identity . I know mine . I do not believe in women having to cover their faces, submit to male dominance , be denied an education , have polygamous husbands and so on. Mr iftikhar go on a course yourself and study the English way of life, afteral this is where you chose to live . Noone is denying Muslims their rights , why would we allow you to seek sanctuary here if that was the case.? look into yourself for the answer, dont expect too much or attempt to alter our culture. "Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth" Seek and you will find, knock and you will enter, however , DONT BANG on the door , you will not be allowed in.

Charlie Ingram ● 7262d

This item has been transferred fro tonight's BBC News front page...What do you think of his opinion..and are you able to repond and answer some of his observations.""Islam is so unreformed there have been no real advance in art, literature, science or technology in the Muslim world in 500 years, Lord Tebbit says.Multiculturalism is in danger of undermining British society, the former Conservative Party chairman also tells the e-politix website.In the 1980s he questioned the loyalty of immigrants who backed cricket teams from their countries of origin.Now he says if he had been heeded it might have stopped the London bombings."I do think had my comments been acted on those attacks would have been less likely," Lord Tebbit told the website."What I was saying about the so-called 'cricket test' is that it was a test of whether a community has integrated.Multicultural society"If a community was looking back at where it had come from instead of looking forward with the people to whom they had come to, then there is going to be a problem sooner or later."Lord Tebbit said multicultural society was "an impossibility" because if there were two cultures there would also be two societies."A society is defined by its culture. It is not defined by its race, it is not a matter of skin colour or ethnicity, it is a matter of culture."If you have two societies in the same place then you are going to have problems, like the kind we saw on 7 July, sooner or later," he said.He warned London was "sinking into the same abyss that Londonderry and Belfast sank".Lord Tebbit also criticised Islam for holding back progress in countries where it was the dominant faith."The Muslim religion is so unreformed since it was created that nowhere in the Muslim world has there been any real advance in science, or art or literature, or technology in the last 500 years," he said. ""

Jim Lawes ● 7281d